Friday, January 2, 2009

L.O.L.C. -It's meaning

I haven't talked much about the title of my blog. Here's the meaning.

Lex Orandi Lex Credendi is a Latin phrase that says "the Church prays as the Church believes". Whether it is the Liturgy of the Eucharist, or a celebration of the Liturgy of the Hours...the prayerful actions of the priest and the faithful always reflects the foundational roots of what the Church believes.

That's something I hadn't thought about. Not only is it what we say in prayer in Mass, or when we sing sacred music, that is our belief. But how the priest and the faithful orient themselves. The rituals that we go through; kneeling, bowing, what we do, and don't do at Mass. This shows what we believe, by making a physical representation of our love and honor we have for God. That's where the Novus Ordo has a potential to go wrong. If we take away all of the rituals that orient ourselves proper to God in the Mass, then we fully don't understand what it is that we as Catholics believe. How can we when some stand or sit during the Eucharistic prayer? Or allow anyone to go up to the altar and take the ciborium, and distribute Christ with our un-consecrated hands? No wonder priests are confused about their purpose in the Mass.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nate,

I find that you are making some very serious generalizations and judgements about people. You would do well, as a 15 year old, to look into your young heart and open it to the Holy Spirit of our Loving God. Please avoid growing into a bitter and condemning adult. I will pray for you.
Fr. Ed Vella, CSsR

Edward said...

Fr. Vella,

I fail to see how this young man's observations about the casual attitude of so many clergy and laity today will cause him to become a bitter adult. I would venture to say his devotion to the Lord is clearly evident in so many of his past articles. You would do well not to accuse a young man of failure to have an open heart to the Holy Spirit of a Loving God just because he is concerned that there is an overwhelming lack of reverence for those things we as Catholics believe. Surely you do not read his statement to say that all priests are confused about their purpose.

Which part of his post do you disagree with?
The definition of Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi.
The statement that the prayerful action of the priest and faithful reflect the foundational roots of the Church.
That prayerful orientation(posture)is crucial to our understanding of our faith.
That the Novus Ordo has been allowed a flexibility, not by nature, but by a permissiveness through bishops and priests (and liturgists with a sense for the "creative") to become whatever current culture and social norms dictate, not what is dictated through the magisterium of the Church. Does this mean that the modern rite does not and cannot be done properly, well, beautifully and reverently? Of course not, and I do not read that the author has implied such.
He cites two examples of ways in which he senses a danger of the faithful not recognizing the true theological reality of what is happening in the Holy Mass when he mentions both the posture during the canon and extraordinay ministers of Holy Communion, specifically noting the action of unconsecrated hands. I believe he has valid points, and I know that these are controversial issues with many. However, I think to imply that he is leaning toward a future as a bitter and condemning adult shows a lack of charity as well on your part, not to mention a bit of condescension.

Seminarian said...

Father,
With all due respect, I find your comments to be rather mean. He has not personally attacked you, rather he seems to have found fault in the way we as Catholics approach our faith. Who can deny? Bravo to Nate for digging deep into his own faith. Do be careful not to come across as judging, Nate, as we all will be judged one day, but keep that lens focused on Christ as you have-- God is pleased, even if some are led to their own discernment.
We could use more pious devotion.

Benedict said...

Nate,
With all due respect to Fr. Vella, I encourage you to ignore his mean spirited comment. As is evident from the comments made on this post and others, you have a serious blog that is read by serious people, and the questions and issues you raise are well worth the investigation. My compliments to your work here, please do keep it up, and keep in mind that there are always going to be people who will criticize you simply because asking serious questions makes makes them uncomfortable. It is much easier for someone to tell you not to become a condemning adult, than for them to seriously consider the issues that you raise. Keep up the good work, and don't let such criticisms get you down!

WF Buckley said...

I challenge Fr. Vella to cite specifically where in this blog the author made "... some very serious generalizations and judgements about people."

I have read and re-read the author's blog and fail to find what Fr. Vella dismisses as generalizations or judgements about people which said Fr. Vella suggests are objectionable, immoral or inappropriate, or fail to demonstrate Christian charity which Fr. Vella implies the author lacks, and further, that Fr. Vella allegedly is employing in his comments here.

In this blog I am reading the observations of a young man who is calling his readers to a greater reverence and devotion to Christ in the Church's liturgy. These are, to be fair to Fr. Vella, certainly very serious observations, but pertinent, and not at all out of line or objectionable. If Fr. Vella thinks them objectionable, Fr. Vella needs to explain why he thinks they are objectionable: the burden rests on him to prove the author has done something wrong. And good luck with that, Fr. Vella.

Reviewing the situation said...

WF Buckley,

I think Fr. Vella was referring,also, to an article that Nate later deleted. It's no longer on this BB.

Conservativly yours,
A National Reviewer

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